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Get Up’s Counterpunch

April 12, 2011

The lying campaign by registered clubs against Federal Government proposals to protect problem gamblers has been counterpunched, blocked and refuted by a full page ad from Get Up. It’s one of the smartest rebuttals I’ve seen in Australian political debate.

The clubs’ full page ads appeared yesterday: 

 Get Up’s devastating and witty response hit the papers today:

Get Up, like its American cousin, is an independent, grass-roots community advocacy organisation that, in its own words, “aims to build an accountable and progressive Parliament…with economic fairness, social justice and environment at its core.” Some of its high profile campaigns include action for maternity leave, greater transparency in political donations, and a campaign against climate change deniers.

It is a not-for-profit organisation, and is funded solely by donations from the public.

You can become a member by entering your details at https://www.getup.org.au/community/join/

9 Comments
  1. April 12, 2011 5:58 pm

    How is gambling suddenly a federal government responsibility?

  2. April 12, 2011 6:54 pm

    I’m just shocked that Ilona ignored her mum for so long that she was able to blow $100,000 on the pokies. Mind you, how mum spends her own money in really none of Ilona’s business, except maybe she wanted to inherit. But daughters that ignore their demented mums shouldn’t really inherit anyway. Just saying.

  3. Anthony permalink
    April 12, 2011 11:33 pm

    The clubs are crying poor, yet they have a reported $20 million to splash on a political campaign. Someone is not telling the truth about where their money’s coming from.

  4. DavidK permalink
    April 13, 2011 2:04 am

    Mr Carr, you and I both know that GetUp is not funded solely by donations from the public. GetUp is required to declare its funding as partly sourced from unions. These unions are the same group as those with delegate rights at ALP conferences; (50% at State Conferences) and hence critical in forming Labor Government policies. GetUp have frequently had partisan attacks on the Liberal party, which belie any posturing of independence.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/union-gave-12m-to-getup/story-e6frg6nf-1225953474319
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/getup-bankrolled-by-unions-20100820-138yq.html

  5. April 13, 2011 5:58 am

    How is a club supposed to know that someone has dementia? Do they need to start employing qualified medical personnel to screen members and their guests?

    Maybe Mandy Roberts was spending all her time in the club because she had no family around to keep her company. Where was Ilona when her mum was down the club?

    Her daughter is grumpy because her mum now can’t afford to pay her own way into an aged care facility, and the daughter has to look after mum. Diddums – honour thy mother and start taking care of her.

    PS – I hate the pokies with a passion. I think they are the ruination of many a good pub. However, state governments are addicted to their revenues, and we’re in this mess because governments have preferred to rake in the taxes and look the other way. How much pokie tax in total was taken in when you were Premier?

    Love the blog by the way.

  6. Mat Tumut permalink
    April 13, 2011 8:17 am

    Problem Gambling is an issue that cannot be ignored yes, however i think people believe that “all” clubs gain massive revinue from pokies that they sit on and do nothing with, did we all miss the memo? do we remember how big a problem problem gambling was before the state government was wise enough to hand pokies to private enterprise ie… Pubs.
    Along with this came the ruination of live music in Sydney, pokie dens on nearly every corner, we watched ordinary publicans who were on the brink of bankruptcy become overnight gazillionares , and all the while the state government counted its massive revinue spike thanks to gaming tax.
    I work in a small golf club and yes we rely on pokies to help our day to day running of the course , however at the end of each year there is no windfall, our staff arent on huge salaries , we even have volunteer labour at times, our revenue goes back to the members either through the improvement of the facility or donations to many of our LOCAL charity foundations. It will be interesting in times ahead when so many opinionated do gooders have to play golf , bowls, rugby, crouquet , tennis etc at these small town facilities on there whimsical sea change experiences and find out it is grossly overpriced or in some instences not even there anymore.
    I personally hate the idea of someone wasting all their money on a pokie and believe we should continue fund helping fix this problem (reducing the numbers in private enterprise would help?) instead of wasting money on smear and counter smear campaigns!
    Who was the premier when pubs got pokies again????

  7. Quoro permalink
    April 13, 2011 9:10 am

    IIona is obviously a little slow. She had access to a demented person that was addicted to gambling and ended up losing all her inheritance instead of getting it early.

  8. April 13, 2011 11:42 am

    Well Bob people in public office and the media should stop demonising the “Tea Party” because it like the Leftist “GetUp” is an advocacy group coming from a Rightist perspective but also Grass Roots”…like its American cousin, is an independent, grass-roots community advocacy organisation that, in its own words, “aims to build an accountable and progressive Parliament….”

    As for the proposed Pokie legislation, I’m not sure about the card/licence to punt, but I favor reducing the maximum bet per game to $1 a spin ($1000 per hour per machine) having said that I ask how come that wasn’t legislated on Poker Machine’s decades ago ?

    In the 1980’s we used to put 10 cent coins in these things, how did we so quickly in 2 decades get to $100/$50 note acceptors ?

    Greedy State Governments as well as Clubs and Pubs Australia need to shoulder the blame for that blow out and the social problems such as to Problem Gamblers families, kids and victims of their crimes often including their Employers who were sometimes defrauded while the Problem Gambler tried to fund their Pokie Addiction.

    And I’m talking about Problem Gamblers not Measured Recreational Punters of which I’m one who might put $50 through the machines once a month

  9. April 13, 2011 2:24 pm

    Rather a lot of front to say the registered clubs are running a “lying campaign”

    Of the Two ads copied above, it is the GetUp ad that contains the more lies.

    GetUp an “Independant Grass Roots Community Organisation”? Turn it up Mr. Carr.
    GetUp is a bunch of Canberra public servants, aged 50+ and taking lots of their money from the Trade Union movement.

    EVERY last bit of GetUp advocacy aligns with ALP policy of the time. Not only are they not independant, with not an altruistic bone in their body, they couldn’t lie straight in bed!

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